Once, and I asked them if they wanted my answer or the preprogrammed canned answer contained in the paragraph that was meaningless to me. Never got called on again, got reamed by the parents when we got home but it was worth it.
Big Dog
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Were you ever called upon to answer when you didnt.........
by ButtLight inraise your hand?
put on the spot and didnt know the answer?
or just werent paying attention?
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Not everyone left the JW Org for the same reason...Why did you leave?
by JH insome left because they couldn't follow the pace.
some left because they knew they were living a double life.. some left because they rathered live a life of sin.. and some left because they considered it a cult.. i stopped going because i was unable to keep up with all their demands and expectations, and i found them too controling.
also because they cover their past and give false hope for the near future.. why did you leave?.
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Big Dog
My cult membership expired at 18 when I became an adult and I didn't renew it.
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Big Dog
As Calvin once said to Hobbes, Okay Jack, time for your lobotomy.
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Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of bible?!
by daystar inthe gift of scripture
"the catholic bishops of england, wales and scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect total accuracy from the bible.".
"but the first 11 chapters of genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this countrys catholic bishops insist cannot be historical.
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Defd, as my wife loves to say, we'll see where the JW's are in a couple of thousand years.
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Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of bible?!
by daystar inthe gift of scripture
"the catholic bishops of england, wales and scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect total accuracy from the bible.".
"but the first 11 chapters of genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this countrys catholic bishops insist cannot be historical.
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No problem Day, I'd love to see some discussion on it.
Derrick, I don't think Jesus was referring to the Bible per se as it hadn't been put in the hotel rooms by the Gideons quite yet.
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Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of bible?!
by daystar inthe gift of scripture
"the catholic bishops of england, wales and scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect total accuracy from the bible.".
"but the first 11 chapters of genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this countrys catholic bishops insist cannot be historical.
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I put this up a couple of days ago, nobody but me and Ackack seemed to find it too interesting, oh and Rex did comment on it.
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Why naturalism is irrational
by Shining One inirrational naturalism (#201) .
by henry morris, ph.d. .
abstract .
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That's the real danger of irrational beliefs though. They cause people to behave in an irrational manner, often with fatal consequences.
Yes, that sadly is sometimes true, but like most things there is the opposite outcome, many of the greatest success stories are born of "irrational" beliefs, that one is capable of fill in the blank (inventing, achieving, etc.) something that everyone tells them is impossible. Everyone around them is telling them they are nuts, delusional, irrational, you'll never do it but they choose to ignore the skeptics and the naysayers and go on to accomplish whatever they were told was impossible.
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?Willing to work a 10 hour day........
by prophecor in.
to have an additional day off from work?
40 hours a week, 10 hours a day / 3 day weekend?
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I've done that before, I loved it.
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Catholic Church No Longer Swears by Truth of the Bible
by Big Dog inwith all the debate raging here about the accuracy of the bible, i thought this was an interesting article.
i've got to hand it to the catholics, when they want to be they can be a progressive bunch, probably why they have lasted so long.. catholic church no longer swears by truth of the bible.
by ruth gledhill, religion correspondent.
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That's Mr. Dog, just kidding Rex. I'm not attacking your viewpoints, I just thought this was an interesting read in light of all the debate that has been going on here with regards to the Bible.
I will say that if I was to put any value on the Bible, it would be more in the manner outlined above than in a very literal way.
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Catholic Church No Longer Swears by Truth of the Bible
by Big Dog inwith all the debate raging here about the accuracy of the bible, i thought this was an interesting article.
i've got to hand it to the catholics, when they want to be they can be a progressive bunch, probably why they have lasted so long.. catholic church no longer swears by truth of the bible.
by ruth gledhill, religion correspondent.
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Big Dog
With all the debate raging here about the accuracy of the Bible, I thought this was an interesting article. I've got to hand it to the Catholics, when they want to be they can be a progressive bunch, probably why they have lasted so long.
Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion CorrespondentTHE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.
The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect “total accuracy” from the Bible.“We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision,” they say in The Gift of Scripture.
The document is timely, coming as it does amid the rise of the religious Right, in particular in the US.
Some Christians want a literal interpretation of the story of creation, as told in Genesis, taught alongside Darwin’s theory of evolution in schools, believing “intelligent design” to be an equally plausible theory of how the world began.
But the first 11 chapters of Genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this country’s Catholic bishops insist cannot be “historical”. At most, they say, they may contain “historical traces”.
The document shows how far the Catholic Church has come since the 17th century, when Galileo was condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by advocating the Copernican view of the solar system. Only a century ago, Pope Pius X condemned Modernist Catholic scholars who adapted historical-critical methods of analysing ancient literature to the Bible.
In the document, the bishops acknowledge their debt to biblical scholars. They say the Bible must be approached in the knowledge that it is “God’s word expressed in human language” and that proper acknowledgement should be given both to the word of God and its human dimensions.
They say the Church must offer the gospel in ways “appropriate to changing times, intelligible and attractive to our contemporaries”.
The Bible is true in passages relating to human salvation, they say, but continue: “We should not expect total accuracy from the Bible in other, secular matters.”
They go on to condemn fundamentalism for its “intransigent intolerance” and to warn of “significant dangers” involved in a fundamentalist approach.
“Such an approach is dangerous, for example, when people of one nation or group see in the Bible a mandate for their own superiority, and even consider themselves permitted by the Bible to use violence against others.”
Of the notorious anti-Jewish curse in Matthew 27:25, “His blood be on us and on our children”, a passage used to justify centuries of anti-Semitism, the bishops say these and other words must never be used again as a pretext to treat Jewish people with contempt. Describing this passage as an example of dramatic exaggeration, the bishops say they have had “tragic consequences” in encouraging hatred and persecution. “The attitudes and language of first-century quarrels between Jews and Jewish Christians should never again be emulated in relations between Jews and Christians.”
As examples of passages not to be taken literally, the bishops cite the early chapters of Genesis, comparing them with early creation legends from other cultures, especially from the ancient East. The bishops say it is clear that the primary purpose of these chapters was to provide religious teaching and that they could not be described as historical writing.
Similarly, they refute the apocalyptic prophecies of Revelation, the last book of the Christian Bible, in which the writer describes the work of the risen Jesus, the death of the Beast and the wedding feast of Christ the Lamb.
The bishops say: “Such symbolic language must be respected for what it is, and is not to be interpreted literally. We should not expect to discover in this book details about the end of the world, about how many will be saved and about when the end will come.”
In their foreword to the teaching document, the two most senior Catholics of the land, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop of Westminster, and Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Archbishop of St Andrew’s and Edinburgh, explain its context.
They say people today are searching for what is worthwhile, what has real value, what can be trusted and what is really true.
The new teaching has been issued as part of the 40th anniversary celebrations of Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council document explaining the place of Scripture in revelation. In the past 40 years, Catholics have learnt more than ever before to cherish the Bible. “We have rediscovered the Bible as a precious treasure, both ancient and ever new.”
A Christian charity is sending a film about the Christmas story to every primary school in Britain after hearing of a young boy who asked his teacher why Mary and Joseph had named their baby after a swear word. The Breakout Trust raised £200,000 to make the 30-minute animated film, It’s a Boy. Steve Legg, head of the charity, said: “There are over 12 million children in the UK and only 756,000 of them go to church regularly.
That leaves a staggering number who are probably not receiving basic Christian teaching.”
BELIEVE IT OR NOT
UNTRUE
Genesis ii, 21-22
So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man
Genesis iii, 16
God said to the woman [after she was beguiled by the serpent]: “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”
Matthew xxvii, 25
The words of the crowd: “His blood be on us and on our children.”
Revelation xix,20
And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.”
TRUE
Exodus iii, 14
God reveals himself to Moses as: “I am who I am.”
Leviticus xxvi,12
“I will be your God, and you shall be my people.”
Exodus xx,1-17
The Ten Commandments
Matthew v,7
The Sermon on the Mount
Mark viii,29
Peter declares Jesus to be the Christ
Luke i
The Virgin Birth
John xx,28
Proof of bodily resurrection